• #57 Sh4M4N



  • #51 thechosenone124

    With Season 4, I think Alistar will finally become a top tier support. In early game he has sustain and presence (which he shouldn't use often because he is very squishy) which allows the adc to have a comfortable danger free lane. Late game, with all the gold, he can actually build tank items which means instead of committing suicide for his initiate which means he might actually survive the teamfight!

    Last edited by thechosenone124: 12/5/2013 9:02:08 PM
  • #43 Thunderboy1998

    Am I the only one who feels like Alistar should have a bigger mana pool? Or at least increase this with items? It happens to me quite a lot that I run out of mana due to using W->Q and Triumphant Roar a lot

  • #44 KenEH

    That should rarely be a problem if you got Chalice of Harmony. You would have to be spamming quite unnecessarily to have that issue after getting the item.

  • #45 Thunderboy1998

    Thank you. I only follow the guide and because that one isn't on there, I didn't get it

  • #49 PsyonicX

    I pretty much always get chalice when i support. that alone should be enough to keep you from going oom to fast

  • #50 thechosenone124

    I'd love Chalice, but in a late game build it won't work. Mikael's is a possbility if you're allies are getting CCed a lot, but Athene's is a terrible, terrible, item on Alistar. Chalice of Harmony is like a Doran's in that you are gonna sell it very soon and it's way more expensive.

  • #39 Meryador

    regarding the skill points.

    taking 4 points into q so it has the same cd as w seems quite a good ideea

    what do you think?

  • #40 Griffrez

    A problem with that, is that you'll make Q cost significantly more mana, which can be troublesome. I believe that's the main counter-argument with that idea.

  • #46 thechosenone124

    By the time you max E and have Q at that level, mana should n0 longer be a problem

  • #36 NiGGlDa0ne

    You can get 10% CDr with new masteries and alistar rly benefits from that!
    If i die with Alistar, its often because im on CD, i play him for 2 years.

    9 Points in Defense of course are superb,
    but you can also get a lot of sustain by taking BOTH HP/regen masteries,
    and because i often play 21 Armor Runes(red+yellow) and exhaust, my masteries are
    The main supporter of TSM often played 1/3/26 Alistar before S3.
    it is worth a thought.
    Edit: i totally agree with new items listened above, if your game is going bad, legion/runic bulkwark is a good idea.

    Last edited by NiGGlDa0ne: 12/16/2012 5:44:45 PM
  • #41 KenEH

    Personally I find Alistar takes a lot of damage to initiate and protect the carry early on. I use 1/13/16 most times.

    I take something similar to what is listed above if I think the lane will be more passive.

  • #48 IBorbarad

    4 CDR is worth 6.7 MR, the 4 points in the masteries are worth up to 6 MR and 2 armor, additionally the health on Alistar is more important than the reductions on Exhaust. So if you want to go for 10% CDR, which is not a bad idea, take blue CDR runes and invest 3 instead of 2 points in MR for masteries.

  • #34 toxichart

    you should add that the very rare support morgana is tough to match up with as she can black shield herself or the adc to keep his cc at bay


  • #37 NiGGlDa0ne

    If morg isnt banned, you should take her mid, support morg isnt bad, but this only happens in low elo games.


  • #33 Junkkhed

    Great guide! +1


  • #30 daneliao

    I've found that Ashe works both as a Counter and a great synergy for Ali. Her slow can make it a huge pain to close on the enemy when she's against you, but when she's on your side it can make chasing a low health champ much easier for a Pulv/HB easy kill.

    I would assume this works for most folks with slows (like Nunu or, of course, Janna) but I find Ashe to be the worst/best with her easily sustained slow without the need for Red Buff or Phage/FM.


  • #31 LiQuiD112

    Vayne is best synergy for alistar in bot lane

  • #29 Grxai

    I feel like Vayne should be listed as a counterpick - i've seen many alis getting screwed during his ultimate  because of true damage.

    Last edited by Grxai: 7/14/2012 6:31:42 AM
  • #35 gdnoz

    I think these counters and synergies are aimed mostly at the laning phase, wherein Vayne isn't THAT much of a threat to Ali, as long as his positioning is solid.

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