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  • #58 Hakka

    Hi folks! I wonder if its any ide to build thornmail on Leona as support /tank?

  • #59 UndeadSpetsnaz

    If the enemy ADC is dealing heavy critical strikes to me and my team, I solve that problem by buying Ninja Tabi boots and Thornmail mixed with other Items. So I say yes to thornmail.

  • #60 thechosenone124

    Really any tank item is good under the right circumstances

  • #61 Kinrah

    I agree, although you do have to take into account whether or not there is just one person doing the crit damage and where the majority/most enemy damage is coming from.

  • #57 humoleq

    What do u think about gp/5 instead of armor quints? Aren't they better if u have to play with farming jungler(shyvana) and vs. poking, strong early  laners? 

  • #48 UndeadSpetsnaz

    I have been playing Leona for a few months now and I'm glad to see this rune setup I thought I was the only one who used this. But I have a few questions if you don't mind answering.

    1.) Why isn't the Talisman of Ascension the best support item on Leona? It gives the money you need to build tanky quicker, Health & Mana Regen, 20% CDR to help Peel Quicker, and a great active for engage/Disengage situations. 

    2.) Relating to the first question, If you do the Relic Shield start building it into the face of the mountain. Wouldn't you want some form of Gold income in your Masteries setup? I Usually do 0/12/18 to have Strong early game defense (with Doran's Shield Start) while having some form of gold income for when i get kills/assists, and when my ADC is farming.

    I'm just really curious on the relic shield the most, I would really like to hear your thoughts on it.

    Thank You

  • #49 thechosenone124
    Quote from UndeadSpetsnaz »

    I have been playing Leona for a few months now and I'm glad to see this rune setup I thought I was the only one who used this. But I have a few questions if you don't mind answering.

    1.) Why isn't the Talisman of Ascension the best support item on Leona? It gives the money you need to build tanky quicker, Health & Mana Regen, 20% CDR to help Peel Quicker, and a great active for engage/Disengage situations. 

    2.) Relating to the first question, If you do the Relic Shield start building it into the face of the mountain. Wouldn't you want some form of Gold income in your Masteries setup? I Usually do 0/12/18 to have Strong early game defense (with Doran's Shield Start) while having some form of gold income for when i get kills/assists, and when my ADC is farming.

    I'm just really curious on the relic shield the most, I would really like to hear your thoughts on it.

    Thank You

    1.) One of Leona's weaknesses is her lack of sustain and peel. Leona's skillset is an extremely offensive one, and the Face of the Mountain gives her a defensive shield, offensive nuke that scales off hp (a nice damage that isn't reliant on allies), and sustain, rounding her off nicely. 

    2.) Gold income masteries favor a sit in a bush throwing stuff occasionally playstyle. Leona is a up in your face playstyle and as a result she requires radically different items and masteries than classic supports like Nami, Sona, and Taric

    Hope this helps!

  • #50 UndeadSpetsnaz

    Awesome, Thank you!

     

  • #54 Foxtrail

    Indeed, but keep in mind, you're not only building to counter, you're building by your play style. If you're passive with Leona, then build like so.

  • #62 thechosenone124

    If you are planning to play a passive support with excellent late game power, then Leona is absolutely terrible (in my opinion). Leona has absolutely no passive power in lane except her threatening presence (which will be hurt if the enemy team senses your hesitation to jump them), and dozens of champions have "presence". The champions that can take that playstyle would be Annie or Thresh. They can be played passively yet still have terrifying lane presence. And their late game is still pretty good.

    Last edited by thechosenone124: 3/26/2014 1:39:27 PM
  • #63 UndeadSpetsnaz

    I never play passive with Leona, I'm very aggressive, sometimes I'm told I'm too aggressive. I was just curious about the Relic shield vs the Ancient coin start. To this day I still use the Ancient Coin to the Talisman of Ascension. I personal just see it more fit on Leona. But I agree with you 100% you shouldn't play passive with Leona at all.

  • #64 thechosenone124

    Well, there's another reason to get shield on Leona: it makes you tankier. Coin gives health and mana regen, but mana isn't really an issue. Relic Shield makes you tanky, and also makes you harder to predict. If you have a coin and start walking through a minion wave, it's not gonna be hard to guess what you're planning on doing. But if you have a relic shield, there's a chance the enemy team will assume you just want to grab a minion and ignore you. Also, the changes have made relic shield more lucrative than coin unless you can't take a minion without taking a crap ton of harass.

    Late game, it's sort of a toss up. On one hand, Face of the Mountain gives more useful stats (ie not mana regeneration and only a tiny bit less CDR). It also provides a shield for baiting and saving (because you sure as hell aren't buying Mikael's Crucible). On the other hand, Talisman provides slightly more CDR and an awesome speed buff

  • #46 xxstealthopsxx

    Why mana regen runes? Is it b/c you're constantly spamming? I play Leona a lot and rarely ever run out of mana with her.... (early game). Now mid and late. I tend to run out of mana a lot more... just curious on your thoughts on the mana regen.

  • #47 Dacchei

    Sheep's reply to this: "Its personal preference. If you feel like you don't need the mana regen, then you don't need to use it. Instead you can just use full MR. I just feel the extra mana regen is nice and since Leona is already ridiculously tanky the 4 extra MR isnt as beneficial"

  • #44 Dacchei

    This guide has been updated. All comments before this one are outdated ~ Feel free to post comments or questions!

  • #42 SurikenTSD

    Hi there! I'm newguy and mb my question is stupid, but what's the point buying Shurelya's Reverie as last item? In the late this item will useless, nope? Because of loss of profit (Philosopher's Stone). I think at least Philosopher's Stone must be one of the first core items, nope?

    P.S.: Sorry for my "english". :D

  • #45 Dacchei

    This guide has been updated :) Shurelya's Reverie no longer exists in S4. It has been changed to Talisman of Ascension. You are correct though, if you find that you need a mobility boost, trading Targon's for this mid game would be optimal!

  • #40 OhKnarley

    Why do you not use any gold items? (i.e. Spellthief, Relic, etc.) I figured the standard build would almost always be a Relic Shield into a Targon. Just curious as to why this isn't happening more often.

  • #41 lee555j5

    Waiting for an answer on this also. Both the Quick Guide and Item Build tabs mention the old Shurelya's Reverie and stats but show the Talisman icon. So, this is left over from S3.

    I get Relic Shield on Leona and Taric. It's actually in Taric's guide. I could also see the Ancient Coin path as well but not Spellthief on either Leona or Taric.

  • #43 Dacchei

    This guide has been updated~~ A gold item is used, Relic/Targon, though some people may choose to sell this mid game for a Talisman of Ascension :)

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