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  • #88 ilbion

    ty

  • #83 thechosenone124

    Why not build Locket of the Iron Solari?

  • #85 Ginnetix

    I main Nami, and I personally only build that when my team desperately needs an aoe shield or mag res.

  • #86 thechosenone124

    Assumng that Mikael's is necessary and you manage to get a fifth item, what would you suggest then?

  • #76 Clutchmander

    I just got back into league this week and I want to try to get high in ranked as support, so I'm just reading up on this build and I got a few questions.

    What do you mean(in the runes section for the standard support one) when you said it makes you able to trade efficiently? Trade what?

    You don't really have any gold income besides the little bit off the mastery pages, and barely anything with the more tank one. What's the idea behind that? Because I usually get all that gold income in masteries and then get the gps quintessences. Then I  buy a gold income item and I get a solid income for a support, allowing me to build up my main items much faster.

     

    One more thing, I've been using this one build and I want really anyone's opinion on it because it's doing great for me. Gives me good lane phase post 6, and fantastic late game phase. I start with the ap gold income item, 2 wards, and ward trinket depending on the lane players. Then I try to stay in lane with the adc until I hit at least 1.5k(stay longer if winning lane and can still sustain) and go get tear of goddess and sightstone and if i have enough try to get the upgraded gps. Trade over the scanner trinket.

    Next my buys include full archangels(amp up my mana so I' m more useful mid game), a soul-stealer, which people say is dumb but I average around 3/4.5/+20 a game so that stacks up a lot giving my heal a lot more. Most ranked games this season I've played this season(and by season this last week and a half) I will always end game with 16+ stacks on it so it really comes in handy for team battles and keeping my teammates at full health, the other item i run for is cd boots. And those are my always get items(untill full build comes then i sell the gps) and my last two items are all depending on the way the games going. Usually i try for the last 20% cd i need for much spam of the spells, and the last spot is usually something completely team oriented. Like a zeke's if my adc and another ad build life-steal or something, maybe a aegis shield if the other team is heavy hitters or really just what i feel would work best for the team. And this build has been working amazingly, even if I am playing only at silver but even when I play with my plat friend and we duo bot lane, it still works amazing. I dont know maybe it fits my style really well but I just wanna get some feedback! Thanks!

     

  • #78 Dacchei

    For your first question, he's talking about trading damage. Usually as a Support you will be poking at the enemy champions to get their Hp down and to disrupt them from Csing. Nami can trade with her W (try to get at least two bounces off of it to make the mana cost worth it) or by casting her on herself or the ADC and then autoattacking the enemy adc/support.

    With the changes to support items in S4, supports no longer need to rely on runes/masteries for money. Getting one of the gp5 items will help keep you up in gold (for Nami, she usually gets the Ancient Coin which gives you gold everytime a minion dies near you).

    I will let other people comment on your build, because I  tend to go about the same route that Sheep goes. However, as far as Mejai's goes, I think it's an item whose purchase should vary depending on how your game is going. If you guys are winning and you aren't dying much, then sure it can be a great support item (actually some Pro players in Korea like to do this), but if you aren't winning or getting kills than it could be a waste of an item slot/gold.

    I feel like Nami's a very versatile champion and the only two items I really like to get on her almost every time are Sightstone, Mikael's Crucible, and Talisman of Ascension. The other two main items you get can be much more dependent on how the game is going/who is on your team/whose on the enemy team.

  • #79 thechosenone124

    What do you think about Zeke's Herald? It seems to be a pretty nice 6th item (for your allies), but it kicks me way above the CDR cap

  • #80 Dacchei

    Try to not go over 40% because you are wasting gold. Take out the extra CDR from somewhere (runes, masteries, other items). Zeke's is great when your team has a lot of people who do damage mostly through auto attacks (heavy AD comps)

  • #81 thechosenone124

    But the CDR from masteries is meant for the early game... doing so would make my late more efficient but compromise early power

  • #82 Dacchei

    Lol ya that's basically how it works. You have to decide if that's worth it for you. Or you can just go over the 40% if you think the other stats are worth it

  • #84 thechosenone124

    By the way, why isn't Zeke's built more often? It gives the equivalent of a free vampiric scepter and longsword to every ally in range. If you have 3 champions that scale well with AD (and the ADC is a given) the power gained is greater than the entire cost of the item. The aura on 2 champions and the CDR is enough to justify the decision, and Kindlegem isn't a bad buy

    Last edited by thechosenone124: 3/14/2014 9:43:04 PM
  • #69 Amygdalas

    Dorans shield??!?!?!?!? -brain explodes- no ward hay???????

  • #77 Dacchei

    For a while Doran's shield was the best item for supports because it gave them the tankiness and survability that they needed in lane. However, now that it's been nerfed there are many other possible options... I think Coin + ward + 2 health pots is probably the most common option for her now.

  • #66 StarLions

    I started to cry when I saw anklespankin able to buy 4 wards to start...I miss the old support ways.

  • #59 thechosenone124

    At about what time within the game do you suggest the trinket swap?

  • #60 Dacchei

    After you get your sightstone. You should be rushing it, so probably by the time you make your first back (unless you're having a rough game).

  • #62 thechosenone124

    Thanks! How is Oracle's Lens superior to vision ward trinket? 

  • #63 Dacchei

    Oracle's lens allows you to sweep more of the map because of it's shorter cooldown (60 seconds) versus the Vision ward trinket that is on a much longer cooldown (180). Also, you can buy vision wards in the shop (even though you can only place one at a time now). So if you get the Oracle's lens you can have the best of both worlds (Oracle's + pinks) whereas with the Vision ward trinket you only get 1 pink every 180 seconds.

  • #64 thechosenone124

    Ohhhh I understand now. Thanks so much!

  • #58 Dacchei

    Guide has been updated. Any comments before this one are outdated

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